Bill Owens Wins NY District 23 For The Democratic Party For The First Time Since The 1800s
By ThePresidentialCandidates.US on Nov 4, 2009 in Barack Obama
A lot of the talking head political pundits (both Republican operatives and so-called “journalists”) are trying to spin the story that the Republican wins of the Virginia & New Jersey Governor races has something to do with President Obama and the national Republican party (that it somehow spells big wins for them in 2010.)
But why would this be the case? Do Governor races generally have anything to do with national politics or not? The answer is clearly that they do not have anything to do with national politics. All it takes is a simple look at the recent histories of Governor races in Virginia and New Jersey to see that quite obviously (which makes one wonder if these idiot pundits do even the most basic research?)
In 2001 when George W. Bush had a sky high approval rating over 80% (post 9/11) both Virginia & New Jersey went for a Democratic Governor. Did those elections have anything to do with Bush? No, obviously not. And did they foretell any Democratic sweeps in 2002 or 2004? No, clearly not.
So why would these elections be any different?
In fact the last nine times Virginia has voted for a Governor (including tonight) it has voted for the candidate whose party does not control the White House. Nine times in a row! So why is this time suddenly supposed to say something about the President? Did it say something about Reagan when Virginia voted for a Democratic Governor twice during his Presidency? No, I don’t think so. Did it say something about Clinton when Virginia voted for a Republican Governor twice during his Presidency? No, obviously not.
So why would it suddenly say something about Obama for a Republican to win while he in office? Why would that make any sense at all? How is it that there are supposedly informed people on cable television making that claim tonight? That’s just shockingly stupid.
I’ve also heard the claim that’s a huge deal that New Jersey voted for a Republican Governor since it’s such a blue state but of course New Jersey had a Republican Governor throughout most of the ’90s (Christine Whitman) and certainly other very blue states have voted for Republican Governors in recent history (Schwarzenegger in California, Pataki in New York, & Romney in Massachusetts for three obvious examples.) So it’s not really that unusual at all.
So while many on the right are trying to make a big deal out of these two Republican wins in these Governor races which tend to have nothing to do with national politics, the Democrats actually won both of the congressional races (in New York & California.) Most impressively they won NY-23 for the first time since the 1800s.
And even more interesting than the Democratic party winning this seat for the first time in ages is how they won it. Really, it was more the Republicans that lost it with their infighting. The Republicans would have almost definitely won the seat but some “conservatives” (ie: right wing nutjobs) decided that the Republican candidate wasn’t “conservative enough” so they ran a Glenn Beck approved candidate named Doug Hoffman in the general election and Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and other far right wing political figures endorsed him.
Eventually the moderate Republican dropped out of the race which the teabagging crew applauded at first because they thought her votes would go to Hoffman so he could beat Owens. But instead she ended up endorsing the Democrat and tonight the results are in: Bill Owens won NY-23 for the Democrats for the first time since the 1800s.
I think the Democratic party would welcome a lot more of this teabagging stuff! I think they’re hoping they go to Florida and take out Charlie Crist next.
I should have also mentioned that Corzine was a very bad candidate that had extremely low approval numbers. He was in deep trouble before Obama was even elected. To blame his defeat on Obama is insane. If they had got a decent Democratic candidate to run in that race, NJ likely would have gone for him.
And Creigh Deeds ran away from Obama almost the entire election. He even said he would “opt-out” of the public option. Deeds ran a “blue dog” campaign and only asked for Obama’s help at the very end as a desperate move because what he was doing was failing.
Deeds has nothing to do with Obama.
admin | Nov 4, 2009 | Reply
You can mention all of things that Obama has done but the economy was going to fix itself. It had to. I wasn’t going to stop brushing my teeth, so someone had to make toothpaste and the tube it is in, so as far as jobs they create themselves.
By the way has anyone checked to see if there were any accurate numbers for those that ran out of unemployment and just gave up? I have 3 people in my family that are now unemployed and that earned middle class incomes, not McDonalds or even a factory, decent paying jobs.
As far as health care reform, I wrote Obama with a suggestion that might not “fix” healthcare, but nothing will, but would solve “alot” of problems and create opportunities. Now I understand that he cannot read all emails but I have to say after the email I recieved an email asking me to go out and volunteer and it was from the Whitehouse. I have “never” received anything from the Whitehouse before let alone an email. Someone got my email then, right?
Something has to be done but these lame “bills” that keep getting written are enough to make you gag. The people writing them are in charge and that is a shame.
As far as Fox News, so what if they are republicans? If it’s the truth then so be it. It’s not like democrats don’t say things about republicans. Get over it.
I do not consider myself a republican or a democrat. I am in between. My party never wins.
Maybe people need to not think so much about “popular” parties and start focusing on the independent parties and we may get the “change” we are looking for.
Obama can make all of the promises he wants regarding the war but the only thing Bush did wrong was that he moved forward without a plan, or should we have just sat back and said “that’s okay, go ahead, do it again, we don’t care”.
As far as the economy mess, the government shouldn’t have to do anything for anyone that went out and bought a house that had a payment higher than they could afford. So what if the banks allowed it?? What are we “stupid”? Maybe the adults of the world need to go back to school to take math classes again. It’s not rocket science to know what your bills are, and far as the banks go, if they were that dumb to give out loans that they knew people couldn’t afford then they shouldn’t have been in business in the first place. I think we have now weeded out “dumb and dumber”. We expect our kids to pass math in school and to graduate but we, the people take no responsibility for our actions.
We do not need more government we need people to take responsibility. Our health system is not a good one, but there are ways to do it without raising taxes and having the government decide what we can and cannot not have done as far as our health is concerned.
If anyone is interested in hearing what this plan is I will watch for those to ask and reply. I only ask that if one does ask and I reply that if they disagree or not, please let me know and give an explanation why they disagree. I love to hear other opinions and always take them into them into consideration.
I do wish Obama the best of luck. No matter which party it is I do think we all have one goal in common, it’s the “getting there” that some of us disagree on.
Kim | Nov 4, 2009 | Reply